"LOOK,
HOW DO WE GET THIS DONE QUICK AND CLEAN, WITHOUT A MESS? I think that
they’re pleased with him, or he wouldn’t be on that beat. He’s ridden
out that contract. How anyone could have signed a contract like that is
nuts. Anyone who couldn’t have gotten a contract closer to six figures
is nuts…Ninety-two thousand, and it’s criminal because he’s intelligent
and he’s good…You don’t think I could take him across the street for one-thirty
five?"
Richard A. Leibner, the country’s
pre-eminent talent agent for broadcast journalists, is on the phone. Leibner
with a phone is like Mantle with a bat, Child with a spatula, Perlman
with a bow. An oval-faced man without much hair, he’ll "do"
50 or 60 calls in a typical working day, sometimes pacing around his Broadway
office, an extra-long phone cord thrown over his shoulder like a sport
coat on the cover of a Frank Sinatra album. Sometimes, as he’s doing now,
he will lie back in his desk chair until he is almost horizontal, his
feet resting on his privately stocked jukebox, his right arm reaching
inexplicably toward the ceiling.
Leibner, 50, is capable of
a remarkable emotional range. He can be plaintive, cajoling, jocular,
terse, profane, sentimental, jovial, respectful, dismissive, analytical
or expansive; the one constant is the strain of his native Brooklyn in
his voice. At times, during a particular textured reading, his associates
at N.S. Bienstock, Inc will gather around his office to listen in and
savor the nuances.
Leibner and the four other
agents who work at Bienstock (including his wife and partner, Carole Cooper,
and Stuart Witt, a former CBS Vice President) represent more than 300
television news employees. Their clients range from the highest paid person
in the business, Dan Rather, to other network luminaries like Diane Sawyer,
Mike Wallace, Morley Safer, Tom Jarriel, Maria Shriver and Bernard Goldberg,
to more or less anonymous producers. Bienstock also represents local anchors
and reporters around the country, including such New York figures as Chuck
Scarborough, Michele Marsh and Pia Lindstrom. (All pay Bienstock between
5 and 7 percent of their salaries for contract negotiation; the figure
rises for additional financial services. By Leibner’s estimates, the company
grosses $3 million a year in commissions.)
Somewhere near the bottom of
the salary range is the man under discussion at the moment, a junior network
correspondent, who, Leibner is trying to convince the vice president on
the other end of the line, is being paid about 40 fewer thousand dollars
a year than he is worth:
"And you can’t do a raise
on a percentage basis. I could take him to 20 different places. He’s single,
he travels light, he’s freaking worth his weight in gold. It’s a question
of you’ve been nurturing him for three years, now do you want to cash
in your investment?…I really want mid one-thirties. You want me to say
one-fifty, I’ll say one-fifty."
 
SPEAKING OF HIM, LEIBNER’S
CLIENTS TEND TO GUSH. Dan Rather: " Richard and Carole are two
of the most extraordinary people I’ve ever met. They’re family-centered,
decent, honest and trustworthy." "60 Minutes" correspondent
Morley Safer: " He’s among the most utterly loyal, true friends a
person can have." CBS News special correspondent Bernard Goldberg:
"He’s like a spouse, except he knows some clients better than
a spouse."
Another client, Herb Denenberg,
a consumer reporter at WCAU-TV in Philadelphia calls him "a one-man
union" and the analogy is apt. Leibner capacious client roster gives
him an estimable power base; he’s particularly rich in the precious currency
of information. At any given moment he knows, probably better than anyone
else in the industry, who is making what, who is happy, who is disgruntled,
who is coming and who is going. When it serves a client’s interest, he
has no hesitation about relating any of this information into a telephone
receiver.
Nor does Leibner confine his
involvement to the usual agent’s job of negotiating contracts. He talks
to network vice presidents about his clients’ assignments, billing, job
definition, exposure, progress in the company. If they are not offered
what he believes is just, he is not averse to advising them to take their
services elsewhere.
Ten years ago, he masterfully
parlayed ABC’s interest in Dan Rather, at the time a correspondent on
"60 Minutes" into the job of Walter Cronkite’s successor on
the CBS Evening News, for the then-unprecedented salary of $2.2 million
a year. Early this year, after protracted negotiations, his client Diane
Sawyer did bolt CBS for ABC, for a $1.6 million salary and the chance
to work with Sam Donaldson on a new prime-time show.
In 1983, the then-president
of CBS News, Edward M. Joyce, infuriated at Leibner’s self-promotion and
what he saw as an habitual intrusion on editorial and management decisions
gave a virulent interview to Variety. Referring to Leibner and the Bienstock
firm, he said, "I am determined not to let the flesh peddlers affect
the caliber of our broadcasts." The trade newspaper accurately headlined
the article, CBS NEWS DECLARES WAR ON AGENT. The subheadline, in
classic "Stix Nix" style, was SEZ THERE"S TOO MUCH JACK
IN THE BIENSTOCK.
Joyce’s offensive was condemned
in the industry as overstated, inappropriately personal and, in the view
of some, including Leibner, anti-Semitic. (In his book "Prime Times,
Bad Times," Joyce wrote that he regretted his "stupid and unfeeling"
use of the term "flesh peddler," but still condemned Leibner’s
attempts "to broker, even arbitrate, many of the decisions being
made at CBS News.") Many, again including Leibner, believe that the
outburst contributed to Joyce’s departure from the network two years later.
Yet some still feel that Leibner influence is "unseemly," in
the words of one of his clients, a veteran network correspondent.
"Talk about inside information,"
says the client, who asked not to be named. "He can play network
against network, reporter against reporter. How many times has he said
to a network, ‘I’ll go easy on this negotiation, if you give me that one.’
"He tries to get involved
in the politics of the news division. He senses himself as a power center.
And sometimes he asks for things that just shouldn’t be asked for by an
agent."
"Excuse me," Leibner
says, "but are Carole and I more powerful than an organization with
a book value of $5 billion?
"When management thinks
you control your clients, then they insult their employees. We’re dealing
with superintelligent people here. They make their own decisions. You
give them options, alternatives and guidance.
" Look, I haven’t won
the Nobel Prize. I just come to work and I’m a good b.s. artist."
ON THE PHONE IS A CORRESPONDENT
WHO HAS BEEN RELOCATED TO another city. " If you could get that
housing stuff as expense-account reimbursement instead of on the W-2,
you’d be much better off," Leibner says. "That’s the only way
you can beat the taxman."
Leibner moves on to another
topic, his client’s relationship with an unsympathetic supervisor. "
I don’t think you have any choice, if you want to survive in the world
of this man. The only question is, how soon is this man going to go away?
He’s a hard man to say yes to because he gives you what he gives you in
such a grudging manner…If you don’t move ahead with new people, you’re
someone who’s going to stay where they are forever."
Leibner hangs up. "I’m
a lay shrink to the world," he says.
Actually, Leibner talks too
much to be a good psychiatrist. (Asked to recall her first impression
of the agent, Diane Sawyer says, " I remember gasping, trying to
get a word in edgewise.")
There also aren’t many therapists
with Leibner’s affection for –and command of –profanity. He is capable
of tempering it when the occasion demands, however. When Laurence A. Tisch
gained control of CBS in 1986, Diane Sawyer informed Leibner that Tisch
was very sensitive to foul language. Leibner cleaned up his act in his
subsequent dealings with the new network chairman, but it wasn’t easy.
On one occasion when, he says, the most common Anglo-Saxonism would have
been perfect, he uttered a sentence so un-Leibner-like that Sawyer was
inspired to inscribe it on a gold clock that now sits on the mantelpiece
in Leibner’s West 57th Street penthouse apartment. The sentence
is: "What the heck, Mr. Tisch."
LEIBNER
WAS TRAINED IN HIS FATHER’S TRADE, ACCOUNTING, AND HE went to work
in the family firm in 1963. The next year, he and his father, Sol, were
given the chance to buy out the agency of Nate Bienstock, an insurance
man who had a number of CBS News broadcasters—including Eric Sevareid,
Walter Cronkite and Charles Collingwood—among his customers.
Bienstock had supplemented
his earnings by occasionally negotiating contracts for some insurance
clients, but his 3 percent commission didn’t yield much revenue: these
were the days when a salary in the mid-five figures was considered big
money. But young Leibner loved the negotiating and loved being in the
world of news. Inspired by the likes of the elegant, worldly Collingwood,
a photographic blowup of whom occupies an honored place in Leibner’s office,
he became, in his words, "a news junkie." He decided to transform
his portion of the firm into something that at the time did not exist
anywhere else: a major talent agency specializing in the broadcast news
business. Its first year, the firm grossed just $48,000.
Things began to change in the
late 1960’s and early 70’s, when a number of factors came together to
the benefit of both television news and N.S. Bienstock. (Bienstock died
in 1984, but Leibner has not seen fit to change the name of the firm.)
Describing the evolution, Leibner lapses, as he often does, into the present
tense: "We hire Ethel Goldstein to run the office, so I can get out
and drum up business. The networks expand their news broadcast from 15
minutes to half an hour. TV Guide starts to write about anchors, and Vietnam
puts the spotlight on correspondents." Suddenly it was a seller’s
market. Salaries jumped, and reporters and anchors realized that an agent
could get them even more money.
At the local level, Leibner
believes, the most important innovation was the advent of three-quarter-inch
video-cassette recorders in the early 1970’s. " To look at a client
or potential client’s work before that, we used to have to use these huge
steel reels, save them up for two or three weeks, then rent two hours
of commercial studio time at $300 an hour," he says. "Selling
people out of town was non-existent. With the cassette, and with Federal
Express, suddenly we could agent every city in the country."
The technological advances
coincided with the "Happy Talk" era of local news, a boom period
when evening broadcasts expanded from 30 minutes to as long as two hours,
and took on what seemed like chattering, empathizing, giggling casts of
thousands.
"In the late 70’s, you
just couldn’t keep up," says Carole Cooper, a onetime producer of
television commercials who joined the firm in 1976, and now directs the
representation of local newspeople. " A local news director would
call up and say, ‘I need a consumer reporter and two general assignment
people.’ I’d get off and say, ‘Where am I going to get those people?"
In response to the demand,
other agents began to ply the broadcast news field. Today, Bienstock’s
main competitors are Ralph Mann of International Creative Management (his
clients include Jane Pauley, John Chancellor, Harry Reasoner); Jim Griffin
of the William Morris Agency (Lesley Stahl, Deborah Norville); Alfred
Geller (Connie Chung); Los Angeles-based Ed Hookstratten (Bryant Gumbel),
and in Washington, Robert Barnett (Sam Donaldson, Chris Wallace.)
In 1977, Roone Arledge, the
president of ABC Sports, was given a mandate to lead the network’s news
division out of its perennial third-place status. He did so by instituting
the network equivalent of baseball free agency. Where previously there
had been virtually no personnel movement among the networks, Arledge made
it known that he was determined to hire the best people; if he had to
lure them away from another network, so much the better.
"That’s when the real
escalation in network salaries came," Leibner says. " CBS had
a frustrated organization—they had a second tier of people who had no
room to move up. And they had no first-refusal clause in their contracts.
We started jumping people religiously.
It was in this atmosphere that
Walter Cronkite let it be known, in 1978, that he had decided to step
down as anchor of the CBS Evening News.
Dan Rather had been a network
correspondent since 1961, when, as a 29-year-old news director for the
CBS affiliate in Houston, he was named chief of the network’s southwestern
bureau. Shortly thereafter, Blair Clark, a CBS News vice president, summoned
him to New York to negotiate a contract. " He asked me who my agent
was," Rather recalls. " I said, ‘What’s an agent?’ Blair said
he wouldn’t feel comfortable if I didn’t have representation. He wrote
down a list of three agents I could pick from. I chose the middle one—Nate
Bienstock." With Bienstock’s help, Rather says, he signed a contract
for $17,500.
Leibner came on a short time
later, and he saw Rather through a number of other contracts, culminating,
it seemed with his "60 Minutes" position at $300,000 a year.
But the seemingly universal assumption that Roger Mudd would be Cronkite’s
successor got Rather to thinking he deserved consideration. He told Leibner
what was on his mind, and the agent took it from there.
Leibner shot up Rather’s value
by determining that both Arledge and the NBC News president William J.
Small were very eager to get him, and making sure that Bill Leonard at
CBS News know of their interest. Then, in a move he later reckoned to
be half the battle, he got Leonard to agree to keep Rather in his "60
Minutes" slot for another two years—until 60 days before his present
contract expired. Staying in full public view on one of the most popular
shows in television, Rather would continue to be just as marketable to
the other networks.
At the beginning of the negotiations,
Leibner shocked Rather by telling him it would be possible to get a six-year
contract for a total of $5 million. CBS ended up offering a 10-year, $22
million deal.
Almost hidden in the contract
was a "window" clause: if Rather were to be dissatisfied after
five years, he would have the right to renegotiate the deal. In 1985,
Leibner used the clause to get Rather an additional raise that will bring
his salary to more than $3.5 million a year by 1990.
ONE OF THE TWO MAJOR CHANGES
IN THE BUSINESS OF TELEVISION NEWS over the last 15 years was a transformation
in the role of anchors, and, to a lesser extent, correspondents. Where
they were once like newspaper reporters, only a little better-paid and
better known, they came more closely to resemble Hollywood stars, with
the kind of celebrity and earning power a print reporter can only dream
about.
Being so intimately involved
in the shift, Richard Leibner has come under fire from traditionalists
who believe that the superstar system with its show-biz values has irretrievably
corrupted broadcast journalism. Leibner—and his clients—insist that they’re
doing the same job, but are just getting paid better for it. A related
criticism is that no one, least of all Dan Rather, is worth $3.5 million
a year. It is the same argument that has been made about guitar players
and left-handed pitchers, and Leibner makes the same response that they
and their defenders do. "No one is putting a gun to the networks’
head," he says. " They pay what the market will bear."
Yet the second major change
in television news—the sharp cutbacks in budget and personnel made by
all three network news divisions over the last several years, climaxed
by CBS News’s 215 layoffs in early 1987—suggests that perhaps the market
could not, in fact, bear all the payroll increases. Was the downsizing
the end result of the salary escalation? According to one relatively disinterested
observer, the answer is no.
"I don’t think they’re
related whatsoever," says Bill Leonard, who, as president of CBS
News in the late 1970’s and early 80’s, signed off on Dan Rather’s first
anchor contract, and who is currently director of the Alfred I. DuPont/
Columbia University journalism awards. "The cutbacks had more to
do with the corporate restructuring of all three networks and the new
owners’ sense that there was a more efficient way to do things."
"I don’t blame Leibner
for getting what he can for his clients. The more journalists are paid,
the better. The only negative effect I can see of the rise of Leibner
and the other agents is they’ve been able to strike deals for anchorpeople
that give them excessive authority and upset the balance of how the news
was properly managed."
Leonard is referring to the
clause in Dan Rather’s 1980 contract that made him managing editor—in
effect, the boss—of the Evening News. Similar clauses—those that go beyond
salary to matters such as billing, frequency of appearances and nature
of assignment—now frequently appear on other contracts, especially contracts
negotiated by agents. It was this intrusion by Leibner and his counterparts
into matters perceived as editorial that infuriated Ed Joyce.
It may be because the networks
have come to accept the involvement of agents in nonfinancial matters
as a necessary evil, it may be because the current austere climate has
led Leibner to back off a bit, or it may be testimony to the power that
Leibner wields, but the executives contacted for this article had no argument
with Leibner’s methods. (None of the three network news chiefs responded
to interview requests.)
"He’s a very, very good
agent," says Richard C. Wald, senior vice president of ABC News.
" A good agent is a little like a good producer—he thinks of possibilities
for his client, in terms of both contract and production. Sometimes it’s
valuable for an agent to be imaginative the way Richard is. Sometimes,
of course, it’s a pain."
A final complaint sometimes
heard about Leibner and the Bienstock agency is from the point of view
of the people they represent. With only five agents and more than 300
clients, can all of them get the kind of service they need? And specifically,
it is said, jobs will inevitably come open in which more than one client
is interested. Or a move that will benefit one client will hurt another.
Could there be a clearer case of conflict of interest?
"It’s a delicate balancing
act," Leibner says. "When we hear about a job being open, we
will make a judgement as to which of our clients has the best chance for
it. If another client hears about it and is interested in it, we will
put him up, too. He has to trust that I’m putting him up with the same
enthusiasm as the other candidate."
Leibner’s interpretation is
echoed by Bernard Goldberg, a client reportedly considered for the "60
Minutes" job given in May to another Leibner client, Steve Kroft.
Goldberg says: " Is it in the back of my mind that Richard sometimes
represents two people going for the same job? Yes. But I have to come
to believe that Richard honestly makes the same pitch for each of his
clients. He will say why Bernie deserves the job; then in the next breath
he will say that Joe is exceptionally good at interviews. I don’t believe
that he would ever sandbag one client at the expense of another."
NOT LONG AGO, IN HIS OFFICE
AT CBS NEWS, MIKE WALLACE WAS discussing the various services provided
by his agent. His "60 Minutes" colleague, Morley Safer, walked
in, and Wallace asked him, " What does Richard do for you?"
Safer replied, " I’m not
going to tell you, Mike, because then you’ll want it, too."
The services Bienstock provides
vary with the client. When the anchorman Mike Schneider parted company
with WCBS-TV in New York this spring, the agency found him a network anchorman
slot with ABC News.
Herb Denenberg in Philadelphia
got the full treatment. "When I signed on with Richard, I wasn’t
fully aware of my value," Denenberg says. "At the time, I was
putting out a story a day. Richard said, ‘You’ve got to be the craziest
son of a gun in the country. You’re producing more stories than anybody
in the United States.’ What did I know about TV? I used to be a professor.
Anyway, Richard negotiated another deal so that my workload was more realistic."
He also got Denenberg raises totaling 50 percent.
"Once," Denenberg
goes on, " I did a story on dangerous plastics in children’s products.
I heard that the CBS Network"—which owns and operates his station—"was
going to send a reporter to do a piece on the same subject. I called up
Richard, he called CBS and I ended up doing the story on the network."
In Denenberg’s case—as in Schneider’s,
Rather’s and many others’—Leibner’s services are clearly worth his commission.
Why, then, doesn’t everyone in electronic journalism sign with N.S. Bienstock
Inc? One reason is that for a top newsperson –someone making, say, $500,000—paying
Leibner $25,000 a year, every year, may not make a great deal of economic
sense. (Some competing agencies charge even higher commissions, up to
10 percent.)
"It’s comfortable having
Richard as your agent," says a former client who parted "amicably"
from him. "But from a business standpoint, it was costing me dollars.
I decided to negotiate my own contract, and I found it was easier than
I thought."
There is a middle way for those
not ready to take that step. Such network heavies as Sam Donaldson, Chris
Wallace (a former Leibner client), George Will and Jeff Greenfield are
among the more than 250 broadcast clients who use the services of Robert
Barnett, a Washington attorney who has developed the news business into
a profitable sideline. Instead of a percentage, Barnett charges an hourly
fee in the area of $300. If a $500,000-a-year correspondent signed a five-year
contract, he would pay Leibner a minimum of $125,000 over that period.
Assuming that the negotiations took 20 hours, a liberal estimate, Barnett’s
fee would be $6,000. Total.
Off-price services like Barnett’s
look especially good in the atmosphere of austerity that has prevailed
since Capital Cities Inc. took over ABC, General Electric took over NBC
and Laurence Tisch took over CBS. Instead of automatic double-digit salary
increases, there have been take-it-or-leave it offers. Instead of bidding
wars, there have been layoffs.
Leibner has lost some clients
who feel that paying a 6 percent commission for a 3 percent raise isn’t
worth it. But he argues that his approach—the full-throttle, 24 hour-a-day
devotion to his clients and their careers—is more valuable in times such
as these: "When people lose their jobs, we’ve got five people sitting
on the telephones, hunting for jobs."
No, the cutbacks haven’t demoralized
Richard Leibner. In fact, he’s feeling pretty good these days. That’s
thanks in part to the Diane Sawyer deal, which entailed a full complement
of late-night phone calls, intense strategy sessions and press coverage,
before the newswoman switched from CBS to ABC.
He certainly hasn’t lost his
rhetorical fervor, as would have been clear to anyone within earshot of
his office late one afternoon. Leibner was "doing" a station
manager: "Come with this last little piece," he fairly shouted
into the phone. "Make the deal! Make the deal!"
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